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2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

pogo, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Youngling Viestejä: 12 Liittymispäivä: 15.3.2021 Viimeisimmät viestit

Hey!

I recently acquired a set of 8330s and a 7350. However, given my room, i'd really like some more bass extension out of my mains.

I've decided to sell the 8330s and get a couple of 8340s, however, to match them, i'll eventually have to upgrade my sub section as well.

 

I have good experience with multiple subs in my room, so I was thinking of simply adding another 7350.

One other way I could approach this is by also selling the 7350 and copping a single 7360.

What would you do?

 

L

lukester, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Jedi Master Viestejä: 296 Liittymispäivä: 22.4.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit

I'd go for double 7350.
Doesn't go as low, but having all the frequencies in full stereo is a bigger plus.
How far is your listening position from the speakers?
If it's less than 2m: 8341 is better, above 2m 8340's price advantage wins.

Bigger monitors, like 1237 deliver full range from a single source and avoid the difficulties of subwoofer placement.
But you have to spend the money at once insteaf of upgrading with woofers later.

pogo, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Youngling Viestejä: 12 Liittymispäivä: 15.3.2021 Viimeisimmät viestit

Around 1-1,5m. A single 8341 will cost me nearly double what a pair of 8340s will, so right now they're way out of the equation, even tho I'd love to splurge.

 

I had the opportunity of getting a brand new pair of 1237s for an """absurdly low""" 3800eur, but they are monsters, and there is just no way I could reasonably fit them in my setup haha

lukester, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Jedi Master Viestejä: 296 Liittymispäivä: 22.4.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit

all good then,

big ones like 1237 need listening distance >2m anyway

janne-koo, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Padawan Viestejä: 73 Liittymispäivä: 26.10.2015 Viimeisimmät viestit

1-1,5m? No reason whatsoever to go bigger than 8330 - 8340's will be worse, not better. What are your current crossover frequencies?

...adding to this... 8340 is mostly just more dB (ridiculous for 1-1,5m). You'd need 8351B's to go noticeably lower on the mains while retaining the imaging; 8341's would be an improvement, but not worth it in my book.

pogo, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Youngling Viestejä: 12 Liittymispäivä: 15.3.2021 Viimeisimmät viestit

Janne-koo, are you saying the 8340 would sound worse because of the increased distance between woofer and tweeter?

While 1.5m is my main position, I often find myself rolling back and just cranking the volume to levels that are beyond my current setup's headroom.

Xover is set at 50hz, and if I could, I'd go even lower. Sub localization at higher frequencies is a big problem in my room, that's also why, in my previous setup, I had 2 subs set up as a stereo pair.

 

lukester, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Jedi Master Viestejä: 296 Liittymispäivä: 22.4.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit

Hmm, I don't think he means woofer-tweeter distance.
Smaller, lighter drivers like 4" to 6" are better at rendering mid frequencies, i.e. voices.
20 years ago I prefered 1030 & 1031 over 1032, because of this.
That 8030 should be much better than 8040 goes against my intuition,
bigger speakers also usually sound "bigger" & more impressive,
 havent directly compared the two models and I've been wrong before.

pogo, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Youngling Viestejä: 12 Liittymispäivä: 15.3.2021 Viimeisimmät viestit

I agree that smaller drivers have quicker response, but 5" to 6.5" really isn't that massive of a difference. Of course once you go past 8" the mass of the drivers starts showing. Besides, I was always under the impression of "get as large monitors as you can for your mains", mainly because of the localization issue with my sub/s.

costakis, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Padawan Viestejä: 76 Liittymispäivä: 13.2.2019 Viimeisimmät viestit
pogo:

I agree that smaller drivers have quicker response, but 5" to 6.5" really isn't that massive of a difference. Of course once you go past 8" the mass of the drivers starts showing. Besides, I was always under the impression of "get as large monitors as you can for your mains", mainly because of the localization issue with my sub/s.

 

The difference is not only in 1,5 in. more diameter, the surface of a 6,5 in. woofer is much more than another with 5 in. 

The placement of the speakers are meant for a certain listening position. It's impossible to expect fine results in all positions. The acoustics of your room and the characteristics of speakers are not in favor of this.  

 

 

 

pogo, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Youngling Viestejä: 12 Liittymispäivä: 15.3.2021 Viimeisimmät viestit
costakis:
The difference is not only in 1,5 in. more diameter, the surface of a 6,5 in. woofer is much more than another with 5 in. 

 

 

Are you saying there's a noticeable difference in driver response speed and "punchiness" between the 8*30 and the 8*40 models? 

 

 

 

costakis, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Padawan Viestejä: 76 Liittymispäivä: 13.2.2019 Viimeisimmät viestit
pogo:
costakis:
The difference is not only in 1,5 in. more diameter, the surface of a 6,5 in. woofer is much more than another with 5 in. 

 

 

Are you saying there's a noticeable difference in driver response speed and "punchiness" between the 8*30 and the 8*40 models? 

 

You can see the frequency responses of both speakers at Genelec's site. There is no significant difference in the sectors that you mentioned. You need a larger woofer in case that you use the speakers in longer listening distance. In your case, you are fine with the 8330. If your room is large in volume, you may need a second subwoofer. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lukester, muokattu 1 Vuosi sitten.

RE: 2x 7350 vs 1x 7360 for 8340

Jedi Master Viestejä: 296 Liittymispäivä: 22.4.2010 Viimeisimmät viestit

Yes, we're in complete agreement.
Guess we'll have to wait for janne-koo to tell us something we don't know, or in what special case his opinion becomes particulary important.