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Speaker set up advice

froggy76, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Speaker set up advice

Youngling Viestejä: 18 Liittymispäivä: 9.9.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi guys,

I have two questions that I have been unable to figure out even though I looked up the forum pages a fair bit.

Firstly I was wondering if there s any major advantage using the ISO pod vs wall mount speakers.
Is genelec favourite/recommendation to always use the isopod first then wall, ceiling. Soffit.... Mount or does is not matter.

Secondly, in regards to using a subwoofer in a purely 2 or 2.1 set up.
How often do you need one for music listening only when you are using either pair of 8030 or 8040? How many tracks really go deeper than the advertise frequency response of the two speakers stated above?
I am looking at my wife's amd I itunes library and I think that the most bass heavy tracks are Katie perry dark horse and thank you from busta rhymes.
Apart from that I listen to many genres and artists, lots of chill out cd....I am not a bass freak, but enjoy a decent low end.
I really am trying to avoid using a sub but I may have to settle for smaller speakers and a sub.
I beleive that adding a sub to the party brings another sets of headaches...
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Regards
1038, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: Speaker set up advice

Jedi Master Viestejä: 340 Liittymispäivä: 6.4.2009 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Froggy,

i've covered this with you before, my strong recommendation for your room is a simple stereo pair of 8240's. In most rooms we get down to 30Hz without a sub, the big benefit of going DSP is how well GLM can tune the bass to your room.

The big cost in regards to bass is when you want high SPL at low frequencies, high SPL LF requires surface area and power. Your room is very open which will be a good thing in regards to tuning the frequency response of the speakers, unfortunately it is a bad thing when it comes to LF level, you wont get alot of boundary gain, so the speakers or sub have to work harder.

For a music system, i would always recommend a bigger pair of main speakers than a sub/sat solution. One of the major issues when playing music back is the sheer diversity of quality in the recordings, some sound anemic, some sound bloated, some sound great.... DVD/Blu Ray is much more consistent as the quality of studios mixing movies is generally much higher.

If you can't stretch to 8240's then the new 8330's would be my next recommendation. GLM will allow the amps to work much more efficiently. See attached Interactive Response Screen Shot of an 8240. The red trace is the in room measurement, the green trace is the eq'd result, as you can see there is extension down to 30Hz, but we've also effectively allowed the amp to work much less as we had 15+dB at 50Hz and give or take 7 - 8 Db gain from 40Hz to 100Hz, this eq provides for much cleaner bass and provides additional headroom for the amps.

froggy76, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: Speaker set up advice

Youngling Viestejä: 18 Liittymispäivä: 9.9.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Steve,

Indeed you have covered that before but I always double check.
Measure twice cut once as we say in the trade industry.
I would love to have the big 8240 or 60, but two things go against them. Size and price. At around $4000+ and the glm on top it simply puts it out of budget.
Size wise, well my wife and I are running a business from home on week ends where brides get ready, have a few drinks, and get start the festivities, thus I can not really afford to have monster sized speakers in the family room.
Which then leaves me with smallish speakers and a sub. Not ideal I know, but it s the best I cam do. I guess it was always going to make a compromise.
As such I may a keen interest in getting a few small speakers and sub but need a few advice on set up in order to reduce the compromise as much as possible.
I am wondering if spl are cumulative, ie, have 4 small 8010/4010 - 8020/4020 in the family room give me enough spl.one in each corner, plus 2 on the deck all mounted with the appropriate hardware vs shelves and ISO pod..
Regards
1038, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: Speaker set up advice

Jedi Master Viestejä: 340 Liittymispäivä: 6.4.2009 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Froggy,

i replied with a PM a couple of days ago... check your inbox.
thesky555, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: Speaker set up advice

Padawan Viestejä: 48 Liittymispäivä: 26.1.2015 Viimeisimmät viestit
I was wondering if there s any major advantage using the ISO pod vs wall mount speakers.
Is genelec favourite/recommendation to always use the isopod first then wall, ceiling. Soffit.... Mount or does is not matter.Regards

I too would love to hear Genelec's recommendations of using a wall mount bracket for a 8040A vs. placing a stereo pair on two subwoofers rather close to the back wall. The wall mount vs. pod question disappeared in the thread.

Thanks.
1038, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: Speaker set up advice

Jedi Master Viestejä: 340 Liittymispäivä: 6.4.2009 Viimeisimmät viestit
I have replied in the other sub forum Sky,

But every install is different, the speakers location is the over-riding concern, once the location has been decided, then the choices of mounting are secondary.