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8250A for stereo hifi

youvebeenserged, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

8250A for stereo hifi

Padawan Viestejä: 39 Liittymispäivä: 22.7.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hello,

I would like the 8260A's but they are too big (WAF).
Subs aren't an option either (WAF).
So, i'll have to do with the 8250A's.

All kinds of music, listening room 4x5 m, listening distance 3 m.

Questions:

1. Anyone using them at home? Happy?
2. Is 35 Hz low enough? Even for Philip Glass Koyaanisqatsi - Prophecies?
3. The 8260A being a 3-way system and the 8250A 2-way, is this only a technical matter (the large bass driver of the 8260A being too large for covering the whole mid range) or is there an audible difference? Since the frequency response of both speakers is similar, I would expect there is no audible difference, or am I missing something? Distorsion?
4. And what about this near field / mid field spec? Is 3 m too far away for the 8250A? I consider 90 dB at the listening position already very loud.
5. I will connect them via analogue connections for the ease of use of the volume control via an IR Remote control. The DAC will be high end. Will there be an audible difference vs connecting digital? I know, for analogue, the 8050B would be enough, but the AutoCal feature seems te be very useful (acoustic treatment of a living room is very UN-WAF and expensive).

I know many will say, go and listen to them. But, it is very hard to do a real ABX test at the dealers show room. Therefore it will be very subjective. On the other hand, I will not be listening in MY room and the speakers probably will not be (auto) calibrated. So, I'm not trusting a listening session.

Many thanks for any input,

Serge
1038, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: 8250A for stereo hifi

Jedi Master Viestejä: 340 Liittymispäivä: 6.4.2009 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Serge,

the 8250's and 8260's are very similar in sound quality. The 60's have a little more LF extension. In room most of the 8260's i have setup extend to 19Hz, whereas 8250's typically extend down to 25Hz.

The 60's image slightly better due to the coaxial mf/hf. You are on the edge of the envelope for listening distance with the 50's but remember that the specifications are for control rooms, not domestic listening environments. I have specified many pairs of 8250's into lounge rooms and my clients have always loved them.

I have demonstrated 8260's in many shows using a Bricasti M1 into the analog inputs, you will be fine.

Autocal is the biggest benefit for you. I recommend that you do multiple measurements, let autocal plot your room response then move either the speakers or listening position to minimise the cancellations you see, don't worry about boundary gain as Autocal can solve these issues, but it can't fix cancellations. Start with the speakers as close to the wall behind them and definitely adjust the height from the floor....
youvebeenserged, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: 8250A for stereo hifi

Padawan Viestejä: 39 Liittymispäivä: 22.7.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Steve,

Thank you for your comments. The autocal explanation is very useful because I wasn't aware that I should experiment with the placement of the speakers before letting autocal do its job.

Thanks agian,

Serge
youvebeenserged, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: 8250A for stereo hifi

Padawan Viestejä: 39 Liittymispäivä: 22.7.2014 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Steve,

What exactly do you mean by 'The 60's image slightly better...'? Could you clarify the word 'image'?

Thanks

Serge
1038, muokattu 7 Vuodet sitten.

Re: 8250A for stereo hifi

Jedi Master Viestejä: 340 Liittymispäivä: 6.4.2009 Viimeisimmät viestit
Hi Serge,

by "image" i mean the ability of the speaker system to reproduce a believable 3D soundstage. As the 8260 has a coaxial MF/HF driver (a single point of origin) it's directivity is extremely even, along with its frequency response.

If you download the owners manual for the 8240/8250/8260 you can see the plots. You must remember that these responses are anechoic, one you place the speakers in your room, it will be your room that dominates the performance of the speaker, this is why Autocal is such a massive benefit.

They are both fantastic monitors.