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Logitech Harmony support for volume control

klassikmann, modified 4 Years ago.

Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Youngling Posts: 24 Join Date: 4/6/17 Recent Posts

Let me reanimate a topic which has been discussed several times in the past (2016/17), prominently in
https://www.community.genelec.com/forum/-/message_boards/message/904246 ("Genelec SAM in a home stereo setup")

I use two 8351 in my living room in a pure digital configuration and the wireless 9101AM (out of production for several times) for digital volume control. Neither the 9310AM nor a PC running GLM are viable alternatives for a home stereo setup. OTOH all my A/V devices are controlled by tablet/smartphone supported by a Logitech Harmony Hub + Companion, with one exception: the digital volume control of the 8351.

In the thread mentioned above illka-rissanen answered at 1/31/17 with "Thank you for the new product idea, I will pass this on to our R&D. :)" to the proposal: "Well, since the 9101A wireless volume control is not in production anymore, Genelec could design the new wireless volume control using Bluetooth tecnology so that it will be possible for us to use universal remotes."

I kindly ask Genelec about the progress made in the last two years regarding that issue. It is a real drawback for home users.

meng, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Padawan Posts: 27 Join Date: 12/17/15 Recent Posts

Hello klassikmann,

I successfully used IR and Logitech harmany to control the digital volume of GLM tonight. The main solution is to use an infrared controlled 10k digital potentiometer board. Of course, you need to teach the infrared code to the harmony. And, it only costs less than $10, for your reference. 

Meng

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meng, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Padawan Posts: 27 Join Date: 12/17/15 Recent Posts
Next week, I plan to upgrade this device to increase the volume digital display and replace it with a better looking infrared receiver. Cost should be less than $5.

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klassikmann, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Youngling Posts: 24 Join Date: 4/6/17 Recent Posts

@meng:
Thank you to share your smart solution.

Unfortunately it is not appropriate for me; I'm a software and networking guy not a hardware one. Working with a soldering-iron is not my scene. I have to wait for a "product" on the market. Therefore I directed my question to Genelec about a possible progress they made. Nevertheless proposals based even on third-party suppliers would be highly appreciated.

jani-oksanen, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Jedi Master Posts: 449 Join Date: 3/30/17 Recent Posts

Sorry for delay on this matter! We have 9101A wireless remote controller available again to use with GLM. You can ask price and availability from your nearest distributor:

 

https://www.genelec.com/where-buy

 

Best Regards,
Jani Oksanen
Customer Support Team

vmakinen, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Youngling Posts: 6 Join Date: 1/1/17 Recent Posts
Hi, the availability of the glm wireless volume controller is a good thing. However, it does not solve the issue of controlling the SAM speakers with a universal remote control.
chakshu, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Padawan Posts: 43 Join Date: 2/10/14 Recent Posts
vmakinen:
Hi, the availability of the glm wireless volume controller is a good thing. However, it does not solve the issue of controlling the SAM speakers with a universal remote controUnfortunately this Genelc wireless controller does ONLY control volume - not even groups. It is also very fidgety to use and I do not trust a customer or colleague with it since the volume can really take off if handled incorrectly.
klassikmann, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Youngling Posts: 24 Join Date: 4/6/17 Recent Posts

Hello Jani,

let me ask again in other words: Is Genelec preparing a solution for volume control using a universal remote control as the Logitech Harmony?

Regards
Herbert

jani-oksanen, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Jedi Master Posts: 449 Join Date: 3/30/17 Recent Posts

Hi,

Current GLM adapter is not compatible with IR remote controllers alone, as it is manufactured to support only RF. Of course, it would be possible to use external device and connect it to the 3.5mm volume controlling jack. Other solution would be to integrate the IR to the GLM adapter in the production.

We have been discusing regarding this on our R&D, but unfortunately we do not have other solution to offer than the wireless 9101A remote controller or 9310A at the moment. I have send an request again to our R&D, and also included this forum post link into it. I know it this feature would be highly appreciated, and hopefully we are able to offer a solution to it later, but, this is currently on the level of discussion only.

Best Regards,
Jani Oksanen
Customer Support

chakshu, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Padawan Posts: 43 Join Date: 2/10/14 Recent Posts
Unfortunately this Genelc wireless controller does ONLY control volume - not even groups. It is also very fidgety to use and I do not trust a customer or colleague with it since the volume can really take off if handled incorrectly.
meng, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Padawan Posts: 27 Join Date: 12/17/15 Recent Posts

Just completed the v1.0 DIY wireless GLM volume remote control with infrared, 315M RF and manual. FYI.

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jani-oksanen, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Jedi Master Posts: 449 Join Date: 3/30/17 Recent Posts
Thank you for sharing your project! yes
gurux, modified 3 Years ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Youngling Posts: 19 Join Date: 12/1/17 Recent Posts

Agreed. I am seriously considering selling my otherwise decent Genelec system (8341 / 8331) because I am fed up with having to constantly use several remote controls and the 9101A is a cheap nasty joke, for a 10K system.

 

I have a 5.1 AES source (a modded Oppo) which is controlled with Harmony, together with my TV. I need On/off / volume control / input switching integration with a Harmony. I can live with activating the automatic standby (although not ideal because it would make more sense to power the speakers on / off like most electronics) and automatic source switching but volume control is very basic and it's a must. 

 

Considering Genelec have been sitting on this for years and they don't seem to care about the home user, I think it's time to accept that it's not going to happen so I am reconsidering my options.  

 

The sound quality is good but not better than a myriad solutions for the money. They are clearly targeting the lucrative pro market which makes it difficult for me, the home user, to integrate their hardware in a convenient, user friendly set up.

 

In fairness they have never made any claims or promises so one shouldn't assume. 

philmas, modified 1 Year ago.

RE: Logitech Harmony support for volume control

Youngling Posts: 3 Join Date: 10/5/15 Recent Posts

@meng: I know this is an old post...

Could you give me more details about the setup you used for volume control: what is the exact model of the board w/display; did you use only a 5V pwr supply from a USB charger for both remote control and GLM adapter, or a DC/DC 5-12V converter, as the control board sporting the display module seems to be 12V?

Would it be possible to have a picture of the whole wireing?

Thanks in advance

Philmas