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AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

dubman, modified 4 Years ago.

AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Youngling Posts: 2 Join Date: 3/26/17 Recent Posts
Hi all,

I am looking for a new interface that can take advantage of the aes/ebu inputs on the 8351A

I was looking at the Motu 1248 but it doesn't look like it supports aes/ebu.


S/PDIF is something that the Motu and my current interface output (UR28m)

I am new to these digital I/O. Any help would be appreciated!

thanks
svart-hvitt, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 35 Join Date: 5/6/16 Recent Posts
Price range?

Is wifi important?

Do you want AOIP?
daiyama, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 73 Join Date: 1/4/16 Recent Posts
You can use your interface with S/PDIF output and connect it via an adpater cable to the 8351.
see also here: http://www.rane.com/note149.html
dubman, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Youngling Posts: 2 Join Date: 3/26/17 Recent Posts
Wifi is not important - Price range is up to 1500 USD


Will there be any loss with conversion from SPIDF?

Thanks
ensoniq, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 47 Join Date: 5/30/15 Recent Posts
I see 3 excellent and professional alternatives:


1.). Metric Halo ULN-2
its upgradable regarding next future Hardware Releases.
Excellent Audio Interface with a rock solid driver for Mac OSX and AES/ EBU XLR

2.) Oppo BDP -105 (SPDIF) - This is a consumer HIgh End Blue Ray Player with professional specifications, including 32 BIT Sabre DAC and excellent SPDIF output (you need a 110 Ohm , SPDIF to AES/ EBU Cable - see Vovox or Funk Cables).

3. ) Mytek 192 Stereo DAC (XLR AES / EBU + SPDIF).

I would go Mytek or Oppo. Both with the Sabre Chip. Excellent sound, digital and / or analog. No -Brainers for the 8351

btw. I run my 8351 and the 8260 with a Metric Halo ULN-8 , but this is a professional Studio Installation. We also have the Mytek 192 and there is no difference regarding the audio quality when running the Mytek or Metric Halo. With your budget in mind, go for Mytek you will not regret it. Its professionall , rock solid , including direct and excellent customer support
daiyama, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 73 Join Date: 1/4/16 Recent Posts
Wifi is not important - Price range is up to 1500 USD


Will there be any loss with conversion from SPIDF?

Thanks


No, audio data are the same.
The adapter only adjust signal level and impedance, the rest of the protocol details stays the same.
svart-hvitt, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 35 Join Date: 5/6/16 Recent Posts
There are lots of AES converters, interfaces to choose from. It boils down to features (uncontroversial claim) and sonic qualities (controversial claim).

I guess you are looking for USB to AES converters?

Take a look at this lengthy discussion of USB converters:

https://www.computeraudiophile.com/foru ... -shootout/

The cheapest, simplest solution, though, could be this one:

http://www.yellowtec.com/en/products-lp ... -lite.html

Note that it needs power from your PC via 2 USB ports (http://www.yellowtec.com/uploads/media/ ... tarted.pdf).

Here's a brand new converter full of features from a well known producer:

http://bryston.com/products/digital_audio/BDP-3.html

I use this one. It has a simple to use switch knob to change input source:

http://www.artistic-fidelity.de/index.php/en/afis

PS: When using Genelec AES-EBU monitors you would be advised to avoid DACs altogether, because they introduce one extra layer of conversion (first from digital to analog, then from analog to digital before converting to analog again).
greymonitor, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Youngling Posts: 5 Join Date: 7/14/11 Recent Posts
When you have a S/P-DIF output with correct signal format (see link http://www.rane.com/note149.html referenced above), all you need is a Canare BCJ-XP-TRB or BCJ-XP-TRC adapter, search ebay 2nd hand broadcast sellers. Such adapter changes the electrical interface, but does not touch audio format.

If you have a 8351A pair and willing to spend in that price range, can recommend a Mutec MC3+ Smart USB https://www.mutec-net.com/product_mc-3-plus-usb.php. It is a fantastic combination!
The many LEDs on the MC3+ will help figure out what audio format is send to the monitors.
stefan75, modified 4 Years ago.

Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Youngling Posts: 16 Join Date: 3/18/17 Recent Posts
cheap solution... Behringer Ultramatch SRC2496
http://www.hifi-advice.com/blog/review/ ... match-pro/
popdv, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 32 Join Date: 6/26/11 Recent Posts
stefan75:
cheap solution... Behringer Ultramatch SRC2496
http://www.hifi-advice.com/blog/review/ ... match-pro/

Behringer is cheap and poor quality solution in case you are using Genelec monitors (doesn't matter analog or SAM series espacily for monitors like 8351!). I write it usung my experiece: Before when I used my analog 8030 I try to use DEQ2496 as DA converter from Lynx AES16e - DEQ2496 make sound bad. Now I have 8351a so I connect directly my monitors to Lynx using AES/EBU. But I'm need headphone output so for temporary I bought (for very good price above $100) SRC2496 for AES to Analog to headphones - and the same low quality sound. So I'm looking now for Tascam UH-7000 ($500) for headphoes out / mic in I will connect it to my AES16e using AES not USB. USB is not the best way to I/O audio signal - I had a lots of tests with DAC and can tel you that AES or even SPDIF is much more better that USB.

If you have possibilty to install inside your computer (Mac or PC) PCIe card so go for Lynx Studio AES16e ($750) and connect directly to your 8351a

As option you can add Tascam UH-7000 for headphoes out MIC in

An other solution add more money and buy Lynx Hilo ($2500) if only two channels is enough for you

kire, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Youngling Posts: 16 Join Date: 5/10/09 Recent Posts
Has anyone tried the S/PDIF Toslink built into most Macs (not the very latest though) and interfaced it to AES/EBU?
popdv, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 32 Join Date: 6/26/11 Recent Posts
Jan-Erik M¥ngs:
Has anyone tried the S/PDIF Toslink built into most Macs (not the very latest though) and interfaced it to AES/EBU?
No idea. But can tell you that I don't like Toslink (optical SPDIF) compare to Coaxial SPDIF. And to convert optic to wires you need electrical converters or audio interface/converter. In this case I will choose use good USB to SPDIF converter then tranformer adaptor to AES/EBU thats electrical levels will be correct. Or use full function audio interface like tascam uh-7000 or something else depend of your budget and portability

 
jappi, modified 4 Years ago.

RE: Re: AES/EBU connection (Interfaces)

Padawan Posts: 36 Join Date: 7/28/16 Recent Posts

Hi kire!

Actually yes. Works very well. Mutec 1.1+ is cost effective & reasonable quality all-around digital format converter with 300€ price tag. It has spdif optical/electrical and also AES/AESid inputs. It converts all formats to all outputs and also has bidirectional mode if needed. There are more expensive versions available up to several k€ depending how far you wish to go. :)