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replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

mikehunter, modified 6 Years ago.

replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Youngling Posts: 18 Join Date: 12/18/14 Recent Posts
Moi,

i´m thinking of replacing my old 8020a that i bought 2nd hand a few years ago against
the new 8320 Model. i´m especially interested in the new SAM Measurement feature, since
i use the 8020 right now together with the IK Multimedia ARC 2.0 Software which improves the soundquality
a lot in my suboptimal environment. i have a few questions to the new model

1) the 8020 vs 8320 are same size, but now offer 2x 50watts compared to 2x20 watts on the 8020 model. Both Models have "accuracy of frequency response 66hz - 20khz" but the new 8320 says in the specs Frequency-Range: "55hz - 23khz" vs. "59hz-25khz" on the 8020 model. My Question is, will the 8320 speaker have noticable more low-end than the 8020 or isn´t that possible because of the small size of the speakers?

2) my local dealer awaits the 8320 coming between christmas and new year to be available, but its unsure if there are also white models coming with the first shipment. the correct modelname should be 8320 AWM? Is there any delay with the white Models or will they are available at the same time and Unit-Amount than the APM? i haven´t found any product-photos of the AWM model on the genelec websites, same on the Distributor / Dealers sites in the internet..?

thanks for your help in advance and nice christmas holidays...
-MH
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Moi,

1) Both models have similar low-end response/extension due to having same enclosure and reflex port. There might be very small difference due to analog vs. digital filters but it's difficult to hear. The 8320 does have much more output capability due to larger amplifiers.

2) W=white, P=producer (dark gray) in "AWM" or "APM". Unfortunately I have no specific information about individual shipments to dealers. Your dealer will be informed or should contact our account specialist when it comes to that kind of information. Both colour versions are currently in production.
mikehunter, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Youngling Posts: 18 Join Date: 12/18/14 Recent Posts
Hei Ilkka,

many thanks for you reply.
beside the low-end: will the 8320 have compared to 8020 "out of the box" (without measurement) improved
overall soundquality or do they sound nearly same? i read in another post here, that the new speakers will have
a total redesign + digtal filters with a noticable improved sound? i´m just curious if the update in my case make sense, because i´m very happy with 8020 in combination with the IK Multimedia ARC2 System.

Many thanks in advance,
greets, Mike
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Obviously there is a difference but it is really difficult for me to judge whether is large enough for you to justify to buy a set of new speakers. :) Typically most people want to upgrade to a large model so maybe you should be looking at 8330 instead.
froggy76, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Youngling Posts: 18 Join Date: 9/9/14 Recent Posts
Hi guys,

Hope you all had a merry Christmas and best wishes for the new year.
Very interesting thread indeed. I currently have a set of 8020c in the theatre room used for front duties and can not praise them enough.
I even took 2 with us for our annual week away holiday, connected directly to an iPad via 3.5mm to stereo xlr. We listen to SPOTIFY so not the best quality at 320kps but still great. My little 16 year old nephew could not beleive the weight and scale of music coming out of such small speakers. I have since ordered a pair of 8010 for him.
To be honest, nor could I, as they are part of the ht set up, I never really listen to them by themselves as 2 subs are used.
It made me think. I need some more speakers for outpr living room, so should I get a pair of larger 8330 by themselves or simply get a f2 to use with more 8020.
Then upon looking at the genelec website, I noticed the 8330 which offer significantly more low end than the 8020 plus more wattage and the bonus of the room correction.
I simply can not go the 8040 due to size so out of the question.
Any advice you guys recommend will be greatly appreciated.
The only plus going for a f2 and 8020 is that the whole house will be equiped with the same speakers all thru. A pair and sub for the living room, a pair in the dining roon and patio on wall brackets.
Regards
mikehunter, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Youngling Posts: 18 Join Date: 12/18/14 Recent Posts
Ok, thanks for the info - i decided to order a pair of 8330 as Pack with Measurement Tools.

question: i know its not recommended - but is it in theory possible to connect a small 5040 Subwoofer to the system?
my idea is to setup the 8330, do the measurement and add the 5040 for a little subtle more lowend.
i think my neigbhors will find the bigger 7350 sub waaaaay to oversized for their stomach ;-)))
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts

It made me think. I need some more speakers for outpr living room, so should I get a pair of larger 8330 by themselves or simply get a f2 to use with more 8020.
Then upon looking at the genelec website, I noticed the 8330 which offer significantly more low end than the 8020 plus more wattage and the bonus of the room correction.

Hi,

This is of course my subjective opinion but I would definitely go with 8330 because of DSP room calibration. They are quite capable already on their own without a sub, and the room calibration is such a huge bonus.
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Ok, thanks for the info - i decided to order a pair of 8330 as Pack with Measurement Tools.

question: i know its not recommended - but is it in theory possible to connect a small 5040 Subwoofer to the system?
my idea is to setup the 8330, do the measurement and add the 5040 for a little subtle more lowend.
i think my neigbhors will find the bigger 7350 sub waaaaay to oversized for their stomach ;-)))

Hi,

It is not our recommendation but with some tweaking, it is technically possible. First, you would need to set a high pass filter at 85 Hz in GLM for the speakers in order to match the low pass found on the sub. Second, you would need to adjust the speakers level down by 10 dB because the default input gains are that much different. Third, you would need to pay extra attention to phase setup due to to the previous issues and also because of different group delays between analogue and digital systems.
bane, modified 6 Years ago.

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Padawan Posts: 40 Join Date: 6/11/09 Recent Posts
Is it possible to use 8330 with SE7261A subwoofer and what type of software ( GLM or GLM SE) should I have to use?
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: replacing old 8020a vs. 8320a..questions...

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Is it possible to use 8330 with SE7261A subwoofer and what type of software ( GLM or GLM SE) should I have to use?

Hi,

Yes it is technically possible to use them together. Easiest way is to use the GLM.SE software and calibrate the whole system with it. Please notice that the calibration features are then limited to the GLM.SE software level.