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zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Hi,

A quick question is the GLM v1.5 compatible with OSX Yosemite?
audiounit, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 18 Join Date: 6/29/10 Recent Posts
I've been running the beta on the laptop and upgraded the Mac Pro yesterday when the release went official. For me on the Mac Pro so far no "new" bugs if anything its running little better. I have not tried to calibrate so i can't comment on that side of things. I have just been using it as a volume/bypass control with the power mate "no power mate software installed".

As with anything like this its upgrade at your own risk, but this is my experience with it so far.
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
I've been running the beta on the laptop and upgraded the Mac Pro yesterday when the release went official. For me on the Mac Pro so far no "new" bugs if anything its running little better. I have not tried to calibrate so i can't comment on that side of things. I have just been using it as a volume/bypass control with the power mate "no power mate software installed".

As with anything like this its upgrade at your own risk, but this is my experience with it so far.


Thanks for the response and a nice part of the World you live in!
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Just be ware folks - GLM calibration does not work with Yosemite.
bourne, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 74 Join Date: 2/26/14 Recent Posts
Given this link, GML 1.5 should work with Yosemite (10.10).
http://www.community.genelec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4739#p4739
Q: Does Genelec still continue to support the old GLM Software (e.g. Yosemite Upgrade, future OS Upgrades) and therefore users of the old unit can keep it running as long as they do not need the volume control?
A: GLM 1.5 supports Windows 7, 8, 8.1, and Apple Macintosh OS X 10.9 and 10.10.
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Thanks Bourne - sorry but not with me. I need to do some investigation why there is a problem. Thanks.
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Well, I'm still getting nowhere with OSx 10.10.

When running GLM Auto Cal and asking it to read from a single position I get the message:

Input calibration failed and the following error:
Input calibration failed. Is the cable between the GLM Network Interface and the computer connected? Some additional filter in the soundcard may be ON. All filters need to be switched OFF.

Any suggestions why I get this error messgae and how to deal with it?
ilkka-rissanen, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Well, I'm still getting nowhere with OSx 10.10.

When running GLM Auto Cal and asking it to read from a single position I get the message:

Input calibration failed and the following error:
Input calibration failed. Is the cable between the GLM Network Interface and the computer connected? Some additional filter in the soundcard may be ON. All filters need to be switched OFF.

Any suggestions why I get this error messgae and how to deal with it?

Hi,

Which version of the GLM interface you have? viewtopic.php?f=4&t=489&p=1591&

If it's the older one, have you connected the cable between it and the sound card input? All others settings checked?
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
I use the 8200 - 416b and I have checked all cables and all the cables are fine, but still no luck with AutoCal.
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Okay I have gone through all my connections / cables and all appears to be fine. I have audio play back.

However, when I open AutoCal the Activity bar shows is full and the info states: Input Calibration... and it goes no further. I really am not clear why this should be happening?

Also, if I choose '0' for default correction I get the following message:

The default soundcard or the recording input has changed. Do you want to recalibrate with the new settings? - Previously calibrated with [USB Audio CODEC ] and again if I try to run AutoCal it crashes.
1038, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Jedi Master Posts: 340 Join Date: 4/6/09 Recent Posts
I'm having exactly the same issue as Zee, GLM fails to proceed once input calibration starts.

GLM doesn't crash, it just keeps trying to calibrate the input, clicking cancel takes us straight back to the main screen and everything is working.

This is on a Mid 2011 MacBook Pro.

I look forward to a fix as this is my laptop when demonstrating SAM monitors.
ilkka-rissanen, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Hello all,

There is no official support for the OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) yet. We do not recommend upgrading if you want to run GLM or GLM.SE.
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Hello all,

There is no official support for the OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) yet. We do not recommend upgrading if you want to run GLM.


Can you show me where Genelec stated there was no support for OS X 10.10 as I must have missed it.

Also, any time scale for the official support?

Thanks.
joerggermany, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 36 Join Date: 12/23/13 Recent Posts
Hallo,
there are some problems with External DACs in Yosemite
because of the new Kernel Extensions. So probably its the same.

To disable it in Terminal you can use the following
to your own Risk:

sudo nvram boot-args="-v kext-dev-mode=1"

Gruss Jörg
joerggermany, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 36 Join Date: 12/23/13 Recent Posts
Hello all,

There is no official support for the OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) yet. We do not recommend upgrading if you want to run GLM.


Hallo Illka,

do you have a timeline for 10.10 support?

Gruss jörg
apirttimaki, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 5 Join Date: 4/1/09 Recent Posts
Hi,

my GLM 1.5 crashes every time I have opened the system setup editor and try to close it. This has happened since upgrading OS X to Yosemite.

Hopefully the support for OS X 10.10 will come soon.

-Antti
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Can we have a response from Genelec on timescales for a 'fix'?
hansi, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 13 Join Date: 6/8/13 Recent Posts
We got a response on 02.06. that 1.5.0 will be fixed "this week" (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1334). However, nothing has happened to GLM 1.5.0 in the last 4 months.
So the question is, will there ever be a bugfixed version of 1.5 (and support for Yosemite) or will users of the old version who want to have an up-to-date operating system have to buy the new GLM2 system?
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
We got a response on 02.06. that 1.5.0 will be fixed "this week" (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1334). However, nothing has happened to GLM 1.5.0 in the last 4 months.
So the question is, will there ever be a bugfixed version of 1.5 (and support for Yosemite) or will users of the old version who want to have an up-to-date operating system have to buy the new GLM2 system?


I suspect the lack of a response from Genelec suggests the latter and therefore as I believe my 8240a's will not be supported. :cry:
bourne, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 74 Join Date: 2/26/14 Recent Posts
It is not that easy. We could not even buy GML 2.0 as there is no Mac version of the Software until Q1/2015 (as stated in this forum). On the other hand, Ilkka announced, that GML 1.0 will be compatible with OS 10.10. I believe, Genelec will provide an update.

I am too waiting for that update, needed to upgrade the Macs due to business reasons.
As a computer scientist, I really wonder how that could happen: Apple provided developer previews of Yosemite for months; Yosemite is no suprise at all and yet there is not even a Yosemite compatible GML 1.6 beta around... :?
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
It is not that easy. We could not even buy GML 2.0 as there is no Mac version of the Software until Q1/2015 (as stated in this forum). On the other hand, Ilkka announced, that GML 1.0 will be compatible with OS 10.10. I believe, Genelec will provide an update.

I am too waiting for that update, needed to upgrade the Macs due to business reasons.
As a computer scientist, I really wonder how that could happen: Apple provided developer previews of Yosemite for months; Yosemite is no suprise at all and yet there is not even a Yosemite compatible GML 1.6 beta around... :?


I agree! We should see a GLM 1.6, but we still wait patiently for a response from Genelec as to what is happening here and more importantly if they are going to support us in the future??
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
I think the silence from Genelec on if there will be a fix, speaks volumes... I guess they wont be offering a fix for us.
1038, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Jedi Master Posts: 340 Join Date: 4/6/09 Recent Posts
Of course they will be offering a fix...

If you haven't noticed they have been very busy with model releases and trade shows.

At the moment it seems that most of us can still control our SAM speakers, we just can't calibrate. This affects me more than most, but i'm sure that within a suitable time frame there will be an update. If you look at Genelec's history of supporting their speakers and customers, it speaks volumes. Just don't expect a rushed quick fix.
zee64, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
Of course they will be offering a fix...

If you haven't noticed they have been very busy with model releases and trade shows.

At the moment it seems that most of us can still control our SAM speakers, we just can't calibrate. This affects me more than most, but i'm sure that within a suitable time frame there will be an update. If you look at Genelec's history of supporting their speakers and customers, it speaks volumes. Just don't expect a rushed quick fix.


I totally get your point about how bust Genelec have been and how supportive they have been in the past to users by issuing timely fixes, but I still wait patiently for a fix and nothing seems to be coming. :(
1038, modified 7 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Jedi Master Posts: 340 Join Date: 4/6/09 Recent Posts
Many audio companies have had issues since Yosemite was released, i just did a quick google search, line6 and RME have only just released their updated drivers... 4th and 5th November....

Considering both those companies basically produce audio interfaces and i assume would have much larger software development teams, Genelec do a great job for a Speaker manufacturer.....

Let's hope Ilkka can provide us with an official company reply...
zee64, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
... and we still wait patiently for some official news... an update/fix would make a nice Christmas present.
zipi, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 3 Join Date: 9/8/10 Recent Posts
Still no fix? I have exactly same problem since upgrading to Yosemite.
bourne, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 74 Join Date: 2/26/14 Recent Posts
Sadly, no fix up to now. After some changes in the room I would need to re-calibrate. Let's hope for 2015 (the beginning of 2015 :? )
apirttimaki, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 5 Join Date: 4/1/09 Recent Posts
I am currently using a mac with Yosemite to control my speakers. If I run a calibration with a windows based laptop, is it possible to import the calibration file to GLM that's running on the mac?
joerggermany, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 36 Join Date: 12/23/13 Recent Posts
I think so.
Save your calibration file for example on a USB stick and then load it under Apple in your GLM.
I use a Parallels Windows7 installation on my Mac. (possible an other Way)

Gruss Joerg
zee64, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
I think so.
Save your calibration file for example on a USB stick and then load it under Apple in your GLM.
I use a Parallels Windows7 installation on my Mac. (possible an other Way)

Gruss Joerg


I've just run AutoCal and GLM on a friends MacBook Pro with Mavericks - all worked well. I then copied the GLM file to a USB drive and tried to import into GLM running on Yosemite. It does not work - file is not recognised, sorry to report this, but importing a file does not work :-(
bourne, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 74 Join Date: 2/26/14 Recent Posts
Maybe you are stuck with the bug I reported here: http://www.community.genelec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1424?

If yes, I found a workaround for this one:
- create a new setting with exactly the same name on the target machine (no need to run autocal there)
- close GML
- copy the file from the other machine to the target machine replacing the files there
- open GML


This worked for me to transfer old GML-settings created back in Mavericks to a new Yosemite Mac Mini.
apirttimaki, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 5 Join Date: 4/1/09 Recent Posts
I've just run AutoCal and GLM on a friends MacBook Pro with Mavericks - all worked well. I then copied the GLM file to a USB drive and tried to import into GLM running on Yosemite. It does not work - file is not recognised, sorry to report this, but importing a file does not work :-(


I had the same problem first when I tried to open the new calibration files during startup of GLM software.

However, I managed to get the imported calibration files working with following steps:
1. first opened GLM with an old calibration file
2. I copied the new calibration files to the GLM folder on my computer. I think that you have to copy both the .glm file and the folder containing the same name to get all the information for calibration
3. New calibration files I opened from the File menu and they loaded nicely

Hopefully you manage to get yours working as well.

-Antti
zee64, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 38 Join Date: 11/2/13 Recent Posts
I've just run AutoCal and GLM on a friends MacBook Pro with Mavericks - all worked well. I then copied the GLM file to a USB drive and tried to import into GLM running on Yosemite. It does not work - file is not recognised, sorry to report this, but importing a file does not work :-(


I had the same problem first when I tried to open the new calibration files during startup of GLM software.

However, I managed to get the imported calibration files working with following steps:
1. first opened GLM with an old calibration file
2. I copied the new calibration files to the GLM folder on my computer. I think that you have to copy both the .glm file and the folder containing the same name to get all the information for calibration
3. New calibration files I opened from the File menu and they loaded nicely

Hopefully you manage to get yours working as well.

-Antti


Thanks for the info Antti, but still no luck. I cansee the glm file and when I ask for it to be uploaded I still get the error file not found :-(
bourne, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Padawan Posts: 74 Join Date: 2/26/14 Recent Posts
Try my version from above: create a new set (no need to run autocal) and see if you can load it with "open recent". If yes, quit, overwrite the files on the disk (use exactly same names) and start GML again and load with "open recent". Still no luck?
On my Macs, this circumvents the bug...
juhaniemi, modified 6 Years ago.

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Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 5/3/12 Recent Posts
Just chipping in to say that I'm experiencing the exact same symptoms and waiting for an update. Bought a new GLM 1.0 set today for my 8240/7260 speaker set. I was sadly surprised that there is no Yosemite support.

Juha
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Just chipping in to say that I'm experiencing the exact same symptoms and waiting for an update. Bought a new GLM 1.0 set today for my 8240/7260 speaker set. I was sadly surprised that there is no Yosemite support.

Juha

Please see this message: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1472&start=10#p5359
zipi, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 3 Join Date: 9/8/10 Recent Posts
I am still waiting for GLM v2 and while waiting I tried to install GLM v2 to my Windows laptop and it didn't find any of my GLM hardware and speakers (8050a). Looks promising, not. Please work harder!

--
Ok. I found out that network interface 8200-416b is not supported by GLM v2. So what is the solution? Even GLM v1.5 does not work on Windows, telling me "Some additional filter may be ON. All filters need to be switched off." What filters?

GLM v1.5 in Yosemite does find speakers ok, but calibration does not work..
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
I am still waiting for GLM v2 and while waiting I tried to install GLM v2 to my Windows laptop and it didn't find any of my GLM hardware and speakers (8050a). Looks promising, not. Please work harder!

--
Ok. I found out that network interface 8200-416b is not supported by GLM v2. So what is the solution? Even GLM v1.5 does not work on Windows, telling me "Some additional filter may be ON. All filters need to be switched off." What filters?

GLM v1.5 in Yosemite does find speakers ok, but calibration does not work..

Hello,

You are being correct that the GLM 2.0 requires the new network adapter. I assume that you have 8250A, not 8050A speakers?

That error message reports that the sync pulse used by the AutoCal measurement isn't read correctly. Are you using the Genelec default sound card or external sound card?

GLM 1.5 doesn't have Yosemite support so it is expected that the calibration doesn't work.
zipi, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Youngling Posts: 3 Join Date: 9/8/10 Recent Posts
I am still waiting for GLM v2 and while waiting I tried to install GLM v2 to my Windows laptop and it didn't find any of my GLM hardware and speakers (8050a). Looks promising, not. Please work harder!

--
Ok. I found out that network interface 8200-416b is not supported by GLM v2. So what is the solution? Even GLM v1.5 does not work on Windows, telling me "Some additional filter may be ON. All filters need to be switched off." What filters?

GLM v1.5 in Yosemite does find speakers ok, but calibration does not work..

Hello,

You are being correct that the GLM 2.0 requires the new network adapter. I assume that you have 8250A, not 8050A speakers?

That error message reports that the sync pulse used by the AutoCal measurement isn't read correctly. Are you using the Genelec default sound card or external sound card?

GLM 1.5 doesn't have Yosemite support so it is expected that the calibration doesn't work.


Sorry, 8250A speakers and 8200-416B USB adapter. So is Genelec forcing me now to buy some new hardware or downgrading Mac OS? Sounds customer friendly...
ilkka-rissanen, modified 6 Years ago.

Re: GLM v1.5 - Yosemite

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts

Sorry, 8250A speakers and 8200-416B USB adapter. So is Genelec forcing me now to buy some new hardware or downgrading Mac OS? Sounds customer friendly...

Please see this thread for information about the GLM 1.5 future upgrades and GLM 2.0 trade-in program: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1626