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¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

mimo, modified 8 Years ago.

¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Youngling Posts: 7 Join Date: 2/15/13 Recent Posts
Dear Genelec:

I like music forever, I play electric guitar and I like to write songs and record them. I have no commercial aspirations but that does not mean it is not picky about the final result. I've an Ashly FTX 1001 amplifier, a JBL Control One monitors and a B&W AS1 sub as a monitoring system to my mixes. While I'm doing pretty good, I'm wondering if it would be necessary to level up a bit in this regard and I've heard several studio monitors in the range might interest me, but I have always tilted Genelec.
Since my studio is my bedroom and work space is really small, I understand that the possible monitors are 6010, 8020 and 8030, in that order on the basis of size. In the web there is a lot of information about them but, as you can imagine, in many ways that does not help me at all. Since I have no access to places where I can have opinions with confidence and I have very clear that if I change the monitors should be for a Genelec, I write you this with the hope that you will help me in the doubts I have.
 Do you think that the difference between the current gear and some of these systems worth investing money?.
* In the most expensive are about 2,000 €, which is enough for my economy. (Perhaps too).
 The set 6010+5040 is really a serious monitoring system or is no longer a home computer system?. And the 8020 +5040?
 The 8030, which in itself is quite large for the site will be deployed, would need a sub mandatory?. If needed, there would be much difference between a configuration 8030+7050 versus 8020 +7050. What about the 5040?.

In summary and considering that my aspirations are not commercial in any case although I am picky about the end result and my studio is my bedroom, do you think I should make the switch to Genelec?. And, if so, what system would advise me?. The room measures 2.5mx 4m x 3m and the music I do is rock, but listen to all kinds of music on them and at volume above the level of conversation, to hear well all the details.
Thanks in advance and sorry for the length of the text, but it is vitally important for me to have a reliable and professional opinion before making a decision. For me, a mistake in this regard would be disastrous.
A greeting.
mimo, modified 8 Years ago.

Re: ¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Youngling Posts: 7 Join Date: 2/15/13 Recent Posts
¿Nobody is walking near here for help me?
¿Ilkka?, ¿Cristophe? ¿somebody?
:?:
ilkka-rissanen, modified 8 Years ago.

Re: ¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Hello,

based of your current gear and other information you provided, I would recommend you 8020+7050 system. It will be a clear step up from your current system and will provide you years of excellent audio quality and trouble-free use.

6010+5040 or 8020+5040 sounds a little bit undersized system for you. I wouldn't also recommend only 8030 if you are used to having a subwoofer in the system.
mimo, modified 8 Years ago.

Re: ¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Youngling Posts: 7 Join Date: 2/15/13 Recent Posts
Oh, Ilkka, thank you very much for your answer. Really, after thinking about it these days, I had also chosen this option. Like you think, the 6010 may be a bit "small" for my conditions. And limit the output of the 8020 to 50% to fit with the 5040 seemed not an acceptable option. Thank you. I also wanted to be sure that my investment of money would mean a breakthrough in my monitoring system. If you, that already know the gear I have and can compare it, confirm that it will be money well spent, I will do. Finally I have some questions I'd like you solved. It is true that now I am working with a sub but keep in mind that jbl control 1 pro not drop below 100hz with some fidelity. The 8030 down to 55Hz. To what extent could the 8030 give me enough bass for not having a sub?. Moreover, the 7050 is too large to have it located in the center. It will need to be on the side, underneath one of the 8020 or perhaps even further to the right. Do you think this can have a negative impact on the quality of monitoring?. It would be better to wait until 5051, that it could be in the center, under my feet?. It will be more expensive than 7050?.When will be available?. And finally, (Ilkka thanks for your patience if you get here), is not possible to remove the grids of 8020/8030?. Although I know that you say that are acoustically transparent, in my case, it will be fixed and no danger of strokes, I prefer there is nothing between cones and my ears. Is there any way to remove them without losing the warranty?.
Thank you for everything.
ilkka-rissanen, modified 8 Years ago.

Re: ¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Hi,

1. It is true that 8030 gives a nice at least down to 55 Hz, usually even a little bit lower in room, but if you are used to working with a sub that goes down to ~35 Hz, I would assume you will miss those few hertz. Therefore I recommended a system with a subwoofer.

2. The placement of the subwoofer is not super critical because it only produces low frequencies which aren't very directional. Usually it is not required to have the subwoofer right in the center of the main speakers, but of course one would need to perform some listening tests in your room to say for sure.

3. 5051A was renamed to F Two, and it is available right now. Price is approximately 20% higher than 7050.

4. Unfortunately it is not possible to remove the grills without damaging the speakers. You don't have to worry about any bad effects grills would have on the audio quality.
mimo, modified 8 Years ago.

Re: ¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Youngling Posts: 7 Join Date: 2/15/13 Recent Posts
Hi Ilkka. Thank you very much for answering. Yesterday I was listening without the sub and the truth is that although I missed the body that gives the sub, the music (100hz to up) sounded more definite and clear, so the sub brought me some things and hide others. For this reason and for space reasons too, I will give an opportunity for 8030. If it do not convince me, I can change them or use my AS1 with, but I hope not to need it and avoid me an element of the chain than can be disturbing. Very thanks for your patience and your advice. I'll be back to tell you if I was Ok with them or exchange them for 8020 +7050.
A very strong greeting and congratulations for your work. I know you're tired of answering the same thing ever but you try very well and very professionally. Thank you again. And see you soon. ;)
mimo, modified 8 Years ago.

Re: ¿¿¿¿6010 - 8020 - 8030 - 5040 - 7050????

Youngling Posts: 7 Join Date: 2/15/13 Recent Posts
Hi Ilkka: Well, I have the 8030 pair for a week. I´m very pleasure. The step up in clarity and detail, in quality of sound if I can say it, has been important. My desk of work is very small, like i said you, and I can´t enjoy the complete potential of the monitor but I think in my conditions I can´t have better sound as I have now with the 8030. And the bass is enough (even too, as the monitor are in corners) for all my needs, even given me information of sub-bass content. I would another dip of -6db bass tilt, and then I will have the option of -2, -4, -6, -8, -10 and -12db. In home-studios is very frequent to place the monitors in corners, like mine. Now, with -6db, I think I have a little too much bass. I would have switch to -8/-10/-12db to test it. But I have a major complaint with the Isopods. They have a very important roll with issolation but, with them, I never can assure the monitor have the vertical and horizontal angle that I want they have. The system are weak and should be more strong, to limit the movement of the Isopods in the monitor forward and backward and not in another direcctions. And I agree if it had a mark (or center position) when de monitor are verticaly alligment. This Isopods have an excellent issolation roll but are making difficult to me to put the monitors like I want. With a hard work of meassurements I can now say that my monitors are now both toed in in a same amount and are verticaly alligment, but this cost me a hard work, moreover, considering the difficulty in such a small place . I think if the movement of the Isopods will be on rails (or something like this) and have a "center position", make life more more easy. In brief, very pleasure with the 8030 but with a -6db Bass Tilt dip and more exact movement of the Isopods they will be..... perfect. Congratulations for your product and thank for all your attention.