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8020B positioning problem

rostam, modified 5 Years ago.

8020B positioning problem

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 10/24/11 Recent Posts
Hi,
I have a pair of 8020's on my desk. The left one is against a wall and the right one against a corner.
I know it's not the best way to employ them and that they must be symmetrical.

what is the best I can do? use different bass tilts on each?

I just have this low frequency resonance which is annoying.

attached is the picture of my room.

p.s. should the speaker on the right side by away from other objects?

Thx
ilkka-rissanen, modified 10 Years ago.

Re: 8020B positioning problem

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Hello,

There are quite a few things you can do to improve the sound quality of your speakers (all of these are equally important):

1) Place the speakers on stands. Please see this document for the benefits: http://www.community.genelec.com/news/4 ... 20A-8020B/

2) Point the speakers towards your ears, meaning tilt them fully back and little bit in too, so that the tweeters point directly to your head when you are sitting down.

3) Move the speakers further away from the walls. For example 15-20 cm distance already brings a difference.

4) Use bass tilt room eq control to account for the boundary loading caused by the table and the walls. Start from -2 dB tilt and go towards larger tilt if you still feel that the bass sounds too loud. If you feel that the right speakers needs a different setting than the left one, don't be afraid to experiment.
mthomasaudio, modified 10 Years ago.

Re: 8020B positioning problem

Youngling Posts: 1 Join Date: 10/29/11 Recent Posts
I too have a pair of 8020b's and have recently finished writing a few tunes however after mixing and being happy with the mix (bass levels, mids etc), my friend and I then listened to it on his monitors in a different location and we came to the conclusion the bass just wasn't loud enough.

As a "newby", I have read up on this and I hadn't set any bass tilt according to the rooms I have been in.

I have read the manuel and set the positioning 1.2 metres away from me and set the angles correctly however cannot point my finger on what setting I should be using for the bass tilt.

My speakers are either side of my mac about a metre apart (this can be adjusted if wrong), both 10cm away from the wall (which my desk is up against). However after reading the manuel that came with the gens and the manuel for correct positioning from genelec they are slightly different.

My guide states against a wall you should have the -4dB Bass tilt on however the online downloadable pdf states
"Ideally, free standing monitor has a flat frequency response. Placing the monitor near the wall boosts the low frequencies; one wall up to +6 dB, a two-wall corner (or wall and desk) up to +12 dB and a two- wall corner with floor, desk (or even ceiling) boosts up to +18 dB. Genelec speakers come with DIP switches which are designed to compensate this boundary load effect. (AutoCal in DSP systems.)"

Any advice on what setting I should be using? Or how to go about finding the correct one?

Many Thanks
ilkka-rissanen, modified 10 Years ago.

Re: 8020B positioning problem

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Hello,

1) You should definitely set bass tilt with that kind of speaker positioning. I would start with -2 dB bass tilt on both and let your ears adjust to it for a while. If your mixes still end up being too light, I would experiment with -4 dB or -6 dB bass tilt.

2) Also notice that all Genelec speakers have extremely good bass extension and flat frequency response when compared to most other monitors in the market. So if you just played your mix with one other set of monitors, it maybe just that those monitors didn't have the bass extension and/or level required. You should always check your mix with as many other speakers/systems as possible to get yourself familiarised with your own mixing setup.

3) If you haven't already put your speakers on stands, do it now! http://www.genelec.com/webshop/loudspea ... a-140.html