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7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
2530g, modified 12 Years ago.
7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Youngling Posts: 14 Join Date: 5/22/10 Recent PostsIf I'm understanding the manual for the 7050B, it offers a more appealing set up option of being able to control the gain/volume of the 7050b/8020 combination by way of the 8020a volume pots by connecting the audio output XLR into the sub but there is no longer a separate audio output available on the newer 8020b.
This might be THE deciding factor to keep the 8020a's if there isn't a "master gain/volume" set up on the 8020b's since I really don't want to control the volume from my sub only.
Can you please tell me if the overall volume can be controlled thru the mains' volume pots with a 8020b/7050b?
or
Is that option no longer available because of the newer 8020b's on/off switch replacing the audio out XLR?
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the only other option would be to go from the converter, out to the 7050b, out to the 8020's (volume cranked to the max) and control all 3 from the left and right faders on the virtual mixer on my desktop.
Thanks for your time, as usual.
ilkka-rissanen, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent PostsYou got it right, the 8020B can't be used to control the gain/volume of the whole system as it doesn't have an output connector. Though usually this isn't a problem because the gain would be only set once and the volume would be controlled from the source.
With 8020A it works as you described.
2530g, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Youngling Posts: 14 Join Date: 5/22/10 Recent PostsI presently have a 5foot and a 10foot unbalanced male 1/4 inch to male xlr between the 8020a's and my Echo Layla 3G (hence the 1/4 inch males)
Can these be unbalanced if I only require the same lengths of 5 & 10 feet or should I be buying 4 new balanced cables?
ilkka-rissanen, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts2530g, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Youngling Posts: 14 Join Date: 5/22/10 Recent PostsI haven't engaged the sensitivity dips on the sub itself because now it's too late in the evening but I did have time to lower the mains to the -4dB Bass tilt setting. I have to say that the addition of the sub is quite overwhelming at this point of adjustment while listening to any kind of music.
I'm finding that I'm adjusting to it as well as it is being adjusted to the mains.
I have to admit It's a completely different "environment" from what I'm used to - like my whole self/soul is being surrounded - Actually sort of creepy at first.
If you remember from my previous thread... My furnished, carpeted room with vaulted ceiling is 20x20 feet and I'm in the corner (not by choice) with the sub at my side. The mains and sub are hugging the walls.
Please realize that I haven't spent more than 15 minutes adjusting/listening before I had to stop.
Do you have any suggestions as to lighten up the subs intensity besides engaging the bass tilts on the sub itself?
Thanks for your time.
p.s. I do have a test cd with 10-300Hz sound files at 10 Hz increments & a separate track of pink noise if that helps...but I don't know how to utilize it.
ilkka-rissanen, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts2530g, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Youngling Posts: 14 Join Date: 5/22/10 Recent Postsilkka-rissanen, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts2530g, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Youngling Posts: 14 Join Date: 5/22/10 Recent PostsThanks for the quick reply as usual!
It's relieves me to know that the factory setting is usually too loud. At first, I thought that I had made an expensive mistake in buying this sub and sort of "overdoing" it / overkill / etc.
Can you tell me from the previous responses to your directions what the roundabout/average prosumer finds to be an adequate setting?
Can anyone viewing this thread tell us all what their sensitivity setting wound up being as well as,
-some info about your room size and
-the model number of the mains you tried to sync the 7050B sub up to?
It would be some very useful information for future owners to base their starting and ending points of adjustment.
ilkka-rissanen, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Can you tell me from the previous responses to your directions what the roundabout/average prosumer finds to be an adequate setting?
It's quite difficult to give any typical settings because rooms and also people are so different. But I would say 0 to -4 dBu is quite typical (assuming that the main speaker gains are maxed out). Also experiment with bass roll-off, typically -2 dB or -4 dB is used.
2530g, modified 12 Years ago.
Re: 7050B/8020a's or 7050/8020b's master volume set up
Youngling Posts: 14 Join Date: 5/22/10 Recent PostsRight away, I can report that lowering the setting to -4dB sensitivity seems to work WAY better than the -6dB factory setting for my combination and placement -
Very noticeable difference in the overall kick drum perception/presence and the expected bass guitar definition.
I haven't tried the roll off dip switches as of yet but I'll let you know as time goes by.
I'd still be interested in hearing what settings other owners have arrived at.
Does anyone out there have any personal system settings data to contribute to future and present Genelec owners?
I'm sure that any useful info would be appreciated by all.