Genelec Community Forum has been archived

Thank you for all the years of Community discussions and activity!

The time has come for us to retire the community forums, but we will keep everything available for reading. There is a lot of valuable content written over the years, and you'll be able to access all of that. However, no new posts can be written, or old posts modified.

If you have questions, we recommend you use the Support function on the bottom right corner to contact our Customer Support directly.

Alternatively, if you wish to engage in a community discussion with other people, there are many active forums available. There is also an active, fan managed GENELEC COMMUNITY in Facebook, and many Genelec employees are active in the discussions there.

We are sorry for any possible inconvenience this may cause you, but we hope to hear from you through the other channels mentioned above.

Genelec Support

Message Boards

New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

thelion, modified 13 Years ago.

New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Youngling Posts: 12 Join Date: 4/4/09 Recent Posts
What an honor this is - starting the first thread on this new Genelec forum. So now I am excited!

First of all I want to thank Genelec in general and those participating and moderating for - finally - giving enthusiastic Genelec users a place to share experiences and discuss our passion.

That being said I want to introduce myself and give you an overview of my setup. I am 30 years old, come from Austria and try to find us much time as possible to spend with my big passion in life - besides my wonderful wife naturally - that is audio/video tech. In my day job I work for Siemens Transportation Systems designing bogies (sadly job opportunities in the audio/video field are spare in Austria...). But it's OK - the job brings food on my table and Genelecs into my playroom. Who am I to complain - especially "in times like this" ;)
I design, build and calibrate home theaters and stereo music setup's. I bought my first pair of high-end speakers (KEF's) and my first projector even before I bought a car...
I am a very avid forum member @ avsforum, hometheatershack ( Hi Ilkka !!!), av talk, beisammen, hifi-forum and others.

Currently I run 5 1037C monitors in a ~180m3 room. Used for mixing AND home theater. In addition I have dual SVS PB13 - just because I don't feel Genelec has a subwoofer in it's portfolio (YET) that is competitive to this setup especially considering price/performance ratio - but this is a discussion for another day - I would love to share experiences especially with Ilkka on this subject.


I would like to upgrade to main monitors (2x 12"/15" bass drivers, eg. 1034B/1039A) for my front stage - using the 1037C as surround speakers in an 7.1 setup. Problem is: After comparing the 1034B to some competitors (like K+H O500 and Geithain) I couldn't help the impression that Genelec's main monitors are not "state of the art"/"king of the hill" anymore when it comes to transparency, clarity and definition of the inner details.

Here is were Genelec's MDC Minimum Diffraction Coaxial Technology comes in. My question is as simple as it is obvious - will MDC be used in upcoming 3-way main monitors (like an successor to the venerable 1034B) as well or is it just supposed to provide a 3-way concept to the 8xxx lineup?

If I may express my opinion - I am well aware of the acoustical benefits of coaxial designs and would love to see Genelec using coaxial drivers in upcoming main monitors.

Any information you care to share about this matter is much appreciated. Thank you very much!
christophe-anet, modified 13 Years ago.

Re: New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Jedi Knight Posts: 188 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Thanks a lot indeed for starting a new thread and for your kind words. We hope this place will be the source for quality discussions and exchange of personal experiences for many passionate users the world over.

Onto the issue of large monitors. The reproduction quality of a loudspeaker is the result of the subtle interaction between the room and the loudspeaker itself. If one element fails, the result is bad. In the case of large monitors the mounting and the room acoustic parameters play a very critical role in the final result. So, to compare 1034B or 1039A main monitors with whatever other systems would require that one can listen to properly installed and precisely calibrated systems in a controlled acoustical environment.

Concerning our new MDC Minimum Diffraction Coaxial Technology, it is the result of many years of development and prototyping to find elegant solutions to the known limitations that standard coaxial drivers feature. As you are interested by the subject, please read a long article Genelec wrote on the MDC technology in the upcoming Resolution Magazine issue. Happy reading!

As for the use of this technology in other monitors, we always have many plans and drawings on the table, many technological solutions in mind, and we strive to provide the best ones for each product we manufacture. Beyond this, we cannot give any details of what will be used where?... We are constantly working on developing new solutions that provide real benefits to the end-users and real improvements in audio quality! So, stay tuned!

Best regards,
andreas, modified 13 Years ago.

Re: New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Padawan Posts: 61 Join Date: 4/8/09 Recent Posts
Hi Lion, good to see you around 8-)

Dear Christophe, is there already a nice big picture you are allowed to share of the new coaxial driver ? :mrgreen:
christophe-anet, modified 13 Years ago.

Re: New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Jedi Knight Posts: 188 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Dear Andreas,

Thanks for your comments. The picture featured in our press release is the one we can show at this stage due to copyright and patent application restrictions. But stay tuned, they are coming!

Best regards,
ilkka-rissanen, modified 13 Years ago.

Re: New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Yoda Posts: 2564 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts

I am a very avid forum member @ avsforum, hometheatershack ( Hi Ilkka !!!), av talk, beisammen, hifi-forum and others.

Currently I run 5 1037C monitors in a ~180m3 room. Used for mixing AND home theater. In addition I have dual SVS PB13 - just because I don't feel Genelec has a subwoofer in it's portfolio (YET) that is competitive to this setup especially considering price/performance ratio - but this is a discussion for another day - I would love to share experiences especially with Ilkka on this subject.

Hi Lion!

So nice to see you here on our new forum! I would love to discuss with you about subwoofers because, as you very well know, they are my passion and forte. Please start a new thread and I'll promise to chime in. :ugeek:
thelion, modified 13 Years ago.

Re: New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Youngling Posts: 12 Join Date: 4/4/09 Recent Posts
Thanks for the kind replies.

I take it you cannot discuss upcoming products and features publicly - for obvious reasons. So I will try hard to trick you into giving away some details...

Is there a technical and/or acoustical aspect that prevents using MDC with larger "main monitors"? Was it "just" introduced to allow 3-way with the limited speaker size of the 8xxx series or is it purely about acoustical benefits?

As you can see I am pretty excited about the prospects of MDC. Another trick question :twisted: : When I think Genelec I think active monitoring, active crossover and DCW. Will MDC be another GENERAL feature we will associate Genelec monitors with? Will it be used throughout the product portfolio?


Please allow for one question about speaker placement - I just got my new center/surround 1037Cs (after using an 1037C stereo setup for a couple of months). I am thinking about flush mounting the front 3 speakers eventually - until then I have to place the Center 1037 right under my projection screen. 2 placement options are available - the 1037 standing directly (decoupled) on the floor or placed horizontally about 40 cm above the floor (on top of a wooden shelf). Which placement is preferable from an acoustical POV?

Thanks alot.
christophe-anet, modified 13 Years ago.

Re: New MDC tech to be used in 3-way main monitors?

Jedi Knight Posts: 188 Join Date: 3/23/09 Recent Posts
Thanks for your post.

The preview of our new 8260A DSP system is not a message of any plans to replace a current product (say the 1032A) or a hint of an introduction of other new models. The cutting-edge 8260A completes our product portfolio with a compact 3-way which has been lacking since the discontinuation of the S30D. MDC technology is introduced in our new DSP 8260A precisely for both reasons you mentioned: size and acoustical benefits.

When we introduce something new, we always wish to bring substantial and unique technological contributions to our customers and to the industry. Each product we manufacture brings our best possible solutions.

As the MDC technology featured in the new 8260A is subject to patent applications, it is for sure a breakthrough associated with our company.

Concerning your question about speaker placement - I have posted the reply on a separate discussion topic so everyone can easily consult the Q & A. Thanks for reading further under the new post - "Correct Center Placement under a Screen".

Best regards,